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Walim 5th December 2005, 04:17 AM Do u like the Price of vB SEO with closed source code ?
About me NO i dont like the price it is not because i can't pay i can pay for 10 Other product with the same price .. but vBSEO i dont think it is worth the 150$
so what do think about it. ?:cool:
Robert 5th December 2005, 04:43 AM I don't know enough about it to offer an informed opinion.
Anyone have a resource link (sorry I am too tired and lazy today to search for one). :(
Walim 5th December 2005, 05:37 AM i dont need to ads their site here .. but go to http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=102148 in page 2-4 you will see a few link to their site :)
Robert 5th December 2005, 05:53 AM Many thanks for the link.
Chroder 5th December 2005, 07:10 AM We just got it for http://www.webmaster-talk.com/ today. It is truly a brilliant product :)
I don't mind that it's closed source. At first I did, but after some though... I don't need to extend it in any way, so I don't need to edit the source.
Derek 5th December 2005, 01:55 PM Kinda seems like a waste of money to me. My regular vBulletin doesn't need a SEO product, search engines crawl it with no problems.
vbcorolla 5th December 2005, 10:43 PM I don't like the closed source part, the fact that it needs to call home to install, or that they can remotely disable your board.. oh yea, the price.
I definitely wouldn't buy it.
Robert 6th December 2005, 01:23 AM I must admit that I am surprised that more web based software is not as strictly controlled as SEO.
If I were releasing a major app I would probably want to make it closed too. Simply because a lot of time and intellectual capital goes into producing something like this and I am not sure it is fair to ask the magicians to show us all of their secrets. ;)
As far as them being able to disable it remotely. The only reason that concerns me is that accidents do happen and I would hate to have my version disabled if their servers experience and "episode".
Chroder 6th December 2005, 03:15 AM I don't like the closed source part, the fact that it needs to call home to install, or that they can remotely disable your board.. oh yea, the price.
I definitely wouldn't buy it. It doesn't install a backdoor or anything... You can read more about these kinds of questions in this (http://www.vbseo.com/f2/i-informed-code-encrypted-software-will-remain-way-747/) thread.
Walim 7th December 2005, 06:14 AM When they will install spyware they are not going to tell u .. and yes i read and i heard there is spyware already and seem like they have fixed it already seo site go down your site will be down also ..
anyway as long as the price $150 and closed source code i never going to look at it or planning to pay for it ..
it is not because i can't.. i just dont like the price with the closed source code..
kall 18th December 2005, 08:13 PM I must admit that I am surprised that more web based software is not as strictly controlled as SEO.
If I were releasing a major app I would probably want to make it closed too. Simply because a lot of time and intellectual capital goes into producing something like this and I am not sure it is fair to ask the magicians to show us all of their secrets. ;)
As far as them being able to disable it remotely. The only reason that concerns me is that accidents do happen and I would hate to have my version disabled if their servers experience and "episode".
Agreed. I personally have no qualms about the encrypted code whatsoever. If I had an opportunity to make $150 per sale, there is NO WAY I would put anything nasty/spyware into it that could be found by anyone. That's just plain stupid.
Somebody already stole the code (in the days when it was not encrypted, early beta days) and released it as vBRanking on vB.org. That is probably a good part of why it was decided to go with encryption.
Walim, you are obviously too cheap/poor/whatever to purchase the product. Why do you feel the need to knock it all over the web?
adb22791 18th December 2005, 09:59 PM It's a bit too expensive, some of the free SEO options are nice though.
Robert 19th December 2005, 01:09 AM I agree that money doesn't grow on trees. Especially if you are still young. But i really don't get why vB, SEO etc. is considered such expensive software?
Over the course of a year these products work out at around $0.40 per day. And after a year they just sit their bringing you endless hours of entertainment.
Brent 19th December 2005, 07:25 AM When they will install spyware they are not going to tell u .. and yes i read and i heard there is spyware already and seem like they have fixed it already seo site go down your site will be down also ..
anyway as long as the price $150 and closed source code i never going to look at it or planning to pay for it ..
it is not because i can't.. i just dont like the price with the closed source code.. Are you the same guy that was in the vbulletin.org thread crying about the site going down if they do?
Well just to clear things up:
That is not true :rolleyes:
Robert 20th December 2005, 12:07 AM I must admit, I find it strange that Walim says that money isn't an issue and then complains when the price is $150 and is closed source.
I have implement some solutions for companies and the software was $150,000 and was closed source. I would have thought that the more valuable the software the more likely the authors would not want people know how it ticks.
Brent 20th December 2005, 03:13 AM I must admit, I find it strange that Walim says that money isn't an issue and then complains when the price is $150 and is closed source.
I have implement some solutions for companies and the software was $150,000 and was closed source. I would have thought that the more valuable the software the more likely the authors would not want people know how it ticks.
The only people that are complainging are the ones that can not afford it and want VBSEO to bring the price down to their level.
If you can not afford 150 dollars for your site, then this is not the software for you to begin with. You need to be focusing on attracting more members and income.
Walim 27th December 2005, 01:11 AM Walim, you are obviously too cheap/poor/whatever to purchase the product. Why do you feel the need to knock it all over the web?
Hello and thankyou for your responses, I apologize in the delay of my response however I was very busy preparing for the Holidays and to me Family is first , however when I saw the derragatory response I felt it best to reply immediately.
I would like to point out to this individual first of all you do not know me, not over the net and certainly not in person , so your idiotic assumption that I can not afford to purchase a product is absurd. I ask you , how would you have any idea what I can or cannot afford ?
Do you know me ?
Of course not !So in the future please refrain from commenting on things you know nothing of , speak of that which you have knowledge of.
I am neither cheap or poor , far from it , and as far as knocking it all over the net , well all I have to say about that is,
I only gave my opinion, and my opinion remains the same, I feel the price is high and I do not agree with the closed source code , that is all, it is my opinion and I am entitled to it whether you agree or not.
So when people give their opinions they should have to deal with the likes of you? hahaha well so be it.
Anyway hope everyone had a Happy Holiday so far, now I am preparing for the New Year see you in 2006 ;)
Robert 27th December 2005, 07:19 AM I do take you point Walim that one should not judge another until you have walked a mile in their shoes, but honestly $150 is not a lot. It barely buys the drinks on a Saturday night.
So for a person of wealth it is just throwaway money, hence Kall's comments about your financial status.
I realise that some people, no matter how wealthy, hate to throw money away, but the service that SEO provides is not available anywhere else for the money. If you were to pay a SEO firm the bill would run out to around $20,000 so from that stand point $150 is very very cheap.
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