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Slynderdale
27th January 2004, 03:30 AM
This is a great hack, I like it. It makes installing hacks simple. Ihave one suggestion though. Maybe add a feature to export a .htl file as a text file. I'm not saying for anything advance, but have it say what templates, phrases are needed and what code edits are needed. I would find this helpful to keep an online documentation of my hacks.

Thank you for your time,
Slynderdale

KuraFire
27th January 2004, 04:42 AM
There are many complications with that, due to the nature of vB3. A generated text file would require anyone who would want to use it as an installer to make a load of modifications and perform all sorts of actions ON TOP OF doing the manual importing of all phrases, templates and settings...

I've looked into it, but not only the above, but also the fact that it would undermine the purpose of the HTL to have it create .txt's, is why I've decided against the feature.

Slynderdale
27th January 2004, 04:59 AM
Hmm, would it be possible to have it export them as queries for the user to run manually? If not, and what you said id true that they would need an installer. Why not have it generate a basic install file? Have the data export from .htl and generate a php installer. For example, having the settings, phrases and so on exported to ana rray or something in the file to process. I believe someone with your skills would be able to pull something off. Your hacks are amazing. If this request is to time consuming for you, then forget it.

On another note, great hack, I installed on my forum and it works great. Its real easy to use. Also are you planning on updating it for vB Gold? Also how is your journal hack comming again? Is there anyway I can lend some support?

eXtremeTim
27th January 2004, 07:44 AM
While the idea of this might be good in theory. First off the work involved to make this happen would be more then its worth. Second doing so defeats the real purpose of the htl in the first place. This is here to set a standard and what kinda standard has two version? Also by doing so you still accompish the same thing just with less benifit.

KuraFire
27th January 2004, 11:26 AM
Hmm, would it be possible to have it export them as queries for the user to run manually? If not, and what you said id true that they would need an installer. Why not have it generate a basic install file? Have the data export from .htl and generate a php installer. For example, having the settings, phrases and so on exported to ana rray or something in the file to process. I believe someone with your skills would be able to pull something off. Your hacks are amazing. If this request is to time consuming for you, then forget it.
Making the HTL generate a full .php installer is possible but that will be a month's worth of work for me. It's really hard to do that on such a large scale, especially if you want it to be of the same quality as the rest of the HTL is.

I'm currently looking into making a txt file generator for the HTL just to show how pointless it is to use .txt's these days. :)

On another note, great hack, I installed on my forum and it works great. Its real easy to use. Also are you planning on updating it for vB Gold? Also how is your journal hack comming again? Is there anyway I can lend some support? Glad you like it, the HTL will probably not need updating for vB 3.0.0 Gold as it will (99.9% likely) work instantly on a clean 3.0.0 Gold install. :)

Journal system is gonna come once this issue over the HTL has been resolved over at vb.org.

KuraFire
27th January 2004, 12:15 PM
Why not have it generate a basic install file? Have the data export from .htl and generate a php installer.
Kinda redundant, too, to do that. That's what the HTL itself already is, doing that would just be doing one job twice. The .php installer generation is, by the way, infinitely more difficult and unreliable than the existing and working HTL-XML-.htl installer.

Slynderdale
27th January 2004, 04:57 PM
Hmm, yea, I see what you mean, its understandable. Hmm, I have another feature, have two mode for saving a .html file. The current format could be .htl while have a compressed format to cut down the size of large files and could be giving an extension like .chtl (compressed hack tracking log), .zip.htl or something like that. You could make a custom compression algorithim using pack or use gzip compression. It would be helpful for people on slower connections like dial up users with very large hacks. Its possible to zip/compress data without installing option PHP modules.

KuraFire
27th January 2004, 05:03 PM
Yeah but right now, a hack as big as the HTL itself has a .htl that is only 17kb. Even dialup can handle that without a problem :)